Where is the chat? I cannot join the chat...It'd be way easier for both of us unless you want your message wall to be flooded with my replies. Discord Server? Discord Link? If you are that concerned on privacy, then use the chat the wikia has provided in the first place
As far as I'm aware, there's no Discord for this wiki, or just Wikia in general. If you're looking for any future feedback from me, check the Wiki Activity section. I'll try and be more thorough with my reasoning for my edits on there.
Where do I get my pictures and what sources I use?
Usually, I would search online if there are Concept Arts for characters and sometimes, get some of the bosses' images from online but most of the time,I have to take snapshot or screenshot of the other bosses
Nah, it's alright. I'll revise and adjust things for consistency when the need arises, but your edits look good in general.
I noticed some of the sources when I started digging around earlier today. It's a shame there aren't a lot of higher quality images around, though I was planning on going through the game again soonish and taking some screenshots (after the holidays, most likely).
I think that's alright for the most part, if only because I've seen that there aren't many options image-wise that we have to choose from here. I do need to mention though that you shouldn't feel like you have to get an image on an article asap, even if there aren't any quality ones. The hand-drawn map of the forest for example, I deleted because we definitely need to have some standards for what we put up on here (you should also make sure your images are how you want them to look before uploading, so you dont end up having to upload multiple iterations).
Also a few things about some of the content now that I've been able to review it closer - You should really try and refrain from copy/pasting content directly from FAQ pages, such as all of those charts. I don't think anyone is going to take notice and come after us over such an obscure game, but it's still generally a good idea to reference things in your own words (you also may just want to leave the template and table creation to me). Secondly, some of your information could use a more formal and unbiased approach. The "Personality" section on Brian's article in particular comes off as commentary, and should be revised.
In addition, adding the "Stub" template to an article auto-adds the category for it, so there's no need to add it in manually (the actual notice is what matters more anyway).
Please try to take all this into consideration when editing from here on out. I won't always get to revisions right away, but I'll most likely have more feedback for you in the future.
Okay,for the first part. I also dont know how to place images and what to place them in. I am not one who knows how the map functions becuz i dont have the game. I mean we could hire an artist but that is just kind of strange,seeing that this is a cryptic game with not much details.
2nd, if I could get more information,I would but in my own words to rephrase. It would still be recognizable of what I am copying. We do do it sometimes but I am just going to think of it.
3rd, The personality edit that I made is kind of a laid-back thing so not much thought was put into formality. Unless, if you want this wiki to be very serious and stern on just giving the information. Still,we dont get feedbacks from others. We could try it for a while but we need to get some opinions.
4th, Your feedbacks are the absolute unit as a stepping stones, I appreciate that but like I said for my edits on articles...They are drafts. Working on the wikia with very few people is quite hard and especially for me,I am not experienced in these sort of things. I do it to convey information conveniently to the viewers but since, the copy paste is most likely the issue for me. That would mean We need a schedule or assigned tasks.
If you like,we could make a commentary just beneath the actual information on the wiki pages.
I am not one to judge but...
A little feedback for you.
Next time, could you prepare and do the necessary things beforehand? (e,g, Protecting pages, making some guidelines of your own?) -- It is redundant to give many feedbacks when you could just put a notice or rules into editing but also make it that everyone knows that there is guidelines becuz sometimes,I misunderstand.
I am still surprised that you are 'allowing' me to edit almost of the wiki. You should've thought about what you should choose me to edit first. You are not taking much initiative but you are still doing great as admin.
Your edits are pretty small like adding a splash of water onto the ocean. I understand you take this and think on it for a long time but still, make your edits more tangible that you could actually review the whole things and see whats the problem.
Let me apologize first if I came off as antagonistic, as that was absolutely not my intention. Since I've only been around here for a couple days, as well as the fact that this is not something I'm able to devote my full time to, admin or not, I cannot compose a full wiki guidelines page off the top of my head (this isn't the first wiki I've taken into my hands). The wiki is still in its infancy stages, and I have not yet been able to finalize a way of organizing everything as of now. Please understand that, and as an extension, my feedback is not meant as a personal attack to belittle you, but rather offer guidance of further editing guidelines from here on in. I'm not going to have everything spelled out for you all at once since this is a work in progress (I'm still trying to figure out how to best go about things myself), rather I'll offer corrections and feedback as the situation proceeds. It may be redundant, but it's our only option in such a situation.
It's fine if you don't have the exact know-how for mapping or images in general. My prior point was that we don't need to settle for any old image to upload here just because we don't have one.
I'm okay with your edits being drafts, so long as you also known what needs to be changed when the time comes. By refraining from copy/pasting things, I don't mean to just rearrange some words to make it seem different, but rather take reference from various sources and recording the general consensus onto the wiki. Certainly it will still sound similar to other FAQs (such a thing is unavoidable with specific facts on a subject), but when I'm able to instantly tell which guide you pulled your information from, then it becomes more of an issue. Again, it's fine as a draft or placeholder, so long as you know that it will eventually be changed or deleted outright.
I've already put protections on the templates and now the main page, but I don't see a reason to block you or others from editing elsewhere. I don't want you to be afraid of me "scolding" you with every edit you make.
It's late where I'm at right now, and I need to get some sleep. I'll spend some time before work tomorrow trying to get a better handle on the overall organization of the wiki, but like I mentioned, don't expect a comprehensive "Do's and Dont's" list any time soon, if at all. I spent some time earlier downloading the various FAQs laying around online to reference as i write things down. I also just purchased a used copy of the official strategy guide for cheap, and I'm hoping to get some additional information out of that (possibly even some image or map scans that we can use).
EDIT - I know there's probably more I could respond more specifically to, but right now I need a night to get my thoughts in order. Keep doing what you're doing if it helps, just know that I'll most likely have more feedback for you.
I am sorry if you felt that I was offended by your review. Sorry you had to write that whole thing. Just relax. I am not saying I dont like your feedbacks or that the feedback was harsh, I was trying to give you my response on the issues you mentioned about my edits. I am completely fine, considering most wikis are serious and supposed to be taken literally. I just felt that it should be more light-hearted. If I am causing you troubles, I will do you what you say. I wouldn't like you to be mad or miserable because of me. I only been on wikia actively for 7 days editing so I am still a novice.
You at least know your stuff and your feedbacks suited to the more common wiki formats or style. I might not enjoy it but if it's helping someone, I would do it. Even though I have less material to work on, that's fine. I already addressed my 'Copy&Paste' Issues with my response. Still, I need your advice. Seriously, there are so few people on this wiki editing and I cant do it all by myself.
Dont stress or overthink this situation (which can be avoided if I explain my response better).
I was not trying to nitpick you just so I can feed my ego, I was just suggesting that you should. I never asked why you would block other pages or ever mentioned that.
(Also Sunday is the day I would take a break from the wiki,only few edits. Most of them are light)
I am deeply sorry if I made you this anxious. Hecc, I would prefer scolding to just plain ol' request or comment. It's not everytime I get to find these comments. Time and Careful Examination was actually put into this and I am thankful for it.
Have a good sleep or a good morning!
TL;DR : I am just apologetic if I made you stressed and worked out. If I explained my response better,you woudnt have misunderstood. Your feedbacks are just one of the few things that motivates me to do better.
It's okay man, I just wasn't expecting a response like that. I'm glad that this is helping and motivating you, and I do consider you to be helping me as well.
Like I said, continue doing what you're doing, but know that the process will also include feedback to figure out what works and what doesn't. If I see something and think "Hm, maybe we could do it this way" or something, I want to let you know as well so we're on the same page. Certain things may be subject to change as the wiki grows, so I'd consider all of our edits and feedback "in flux" for the time being. Things will eventually stabilize, but I really can't say when.
(When you said "allowing" you to edit pages, I wasn't sure what you were getting at other than blocking the pages outright.)
Yes, I was thinking the same thing, I still need to actually play through Brian's Journey. I also wasn't even aware of the third game, but from what I've seen so far, it looks really short.
Also, I did some digging around and was able to extract the some of the 2D assets from the N64 rom. I'll be able to upload all the item sprites and maps (they come in pieces though, so it'll take me a little bit to assemble them). The strategy guide is on its way, though I don't think it'll arrive before the end of the week (I wont be around, but more on that later).
Now,we just need to get some assets from OG game. I am not sure if whether some information can be extracted onto a computer like Brian's Journey N64 rom. If so,I will be posting almost everyday.
Also,for the strategy guide,how are we going to solve that? Sure,we can do multiple tests with each moves and spells that works best on an opponent but I dont know any other more efficient way to collect more data.
For the gameboy game, I’ll probably end up going through a similar process I’ve done with a couple other games on that system. I’ll be playing through it in its original size and take screenshots, then manually edit out the sprites (and maps, potentially) in photoshop.
I still have plans to (progressively) go through the N64 game and take higher quality screenshots of all the enemies, though I don’t think I’ll even be able to start that until after New Years at the earliest. I think at this point, I'd prefer it if you leave the in-game image uploading to me. Don’t worry about placeholders or the need to upload something immediately, just stick to making exclusively textual edits on articles.
I think you may be confused on that last part. I'm saying I actually bought the official strategy guide book (a used copy on ebay), just to check over, cross-reference it with the online guides, and potentially discover new information. Once we’ve gone through all possible external information, we can figure things out from there.
And to reiterate my previous post, I’ll be around today and tomorrow, but then I will be gone starting from this Thursday all the way until Monday night. I’d ask that you really consider my prior advice during that time (stick to textual edits, leave the infoboxes and categories as is, and please refrain from uploading the aforementioned images), as that’ll create a lot less stress for me when I return next week.
If you have any questions, you should ask them before I leave. I’ll still be able to check things out on my phone while I’m away, but that’s it. I’ll try and send you a (short) message if there’s concern, but hopefully it wont have to come to that.